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RE: The smaller they get....
I take my hat off to those who have figured out a way to go to RVing with a combo that suits their needs.
At the same time that combo is reasonably priced to buy/maintain, easy to set up, gets great fuel mileage, and fun to drive.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/CF105/mini-2.jpg?t=1227365424
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Road Ruler
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11/22/08 07:54am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Nothing But Bargain Basement Priced Used H-2 Hummers
When you are talking about two vehicles colliding head-on, the larger vehicle has a tremendous advantage. An 8000 lb. F350 hitting a 4000 lb. sedan head-on at equal speeds carries four times the kinetic energy of the sedan, with the sedan predictably absorbing much more of the damage.
Of course you are right.
But the smaller vehicle is much more agile and it has been shown before that they will more than likely avoid an accident where the larger vehicle will be involved in one. Statistics have also shown that there are very few accidents where a smallish vehicle is involved with a larger one.
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Road Ruler
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11/12/08 07:19pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Nothing But Bargain Basement Priced Used H-2 Hummers
If it had been 2 small cars, the occupants probly would have been crushed inside the cars, probly losing their legs or worse.
Crash comparison testing says otherwise. Both these vehicles hit the same wall at the same speed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/CF105/mini_vs_f150.jpg?t=1226532271
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Road Ruler
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11/12/08 04:25pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Nothing But Bargain Basement Priced Used H-2 Hummers
Are they pretty stable towing machines?
My sister bought one when they first came out and paid close to $100,000 for it here in Canada with options and inflated price because it was new and in demand.
I had it for 3 weeks and for the 1st hour it was fun and then the fun factor decreased the more I drove it. I disliked it very much on the highway and felt uneasy about it's stability and long stopping distances.
Although it has a 6,000lb tow capacity hooking a TT to it is not going to improve on all the short comings.
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Road Ruler
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11/11/08 05:11pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Can a Car tow a 34'TT
I think it's important to look at a variety of sources, compare, weigh evidence, keep abreast of changing trends, new ideas, etc.
I agree Les, a you can see from the post above!
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Road Ruler
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11/09/08 04:55am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Can a Car tow a 34'TT
Are you talking about an 80's 1500 pickup? If so you are probably right. However, today's 1500 series pickups would be superior in every respect.
For sure the newer pickups are better than the old ones but still have a long way to go.
At Riverside Racetrack a 67 Chev Caprice with a 30' Airstream in tow does some "pushed to the limit off roading" on hilly, uneven, terrain.....No problem. I have the video of this session and I doubt very much if a modern pick up would have the agility to so the same.
Motorcade magazine test a 65 Dodge and a 4,500lb., 30' Airstream and reached 94MPH. Conclusion...The Dodge made an excellent tow vehicle for this TT. Towing the Airstream was a solid and steady, an almost effortless delight. Once again I doubt if a modern pickup would do as well in the same test.
Road Test in 1955, 188HP, Mercury towing a 30' Airstream.... On a straight course 91 MPH was reached. I guess a 300HP modern pick up could match this today.
In the 70's Caravaner's Insurance company did some testing. A Dodge Coronet towed a 30' Airstream at 115 MPH and stayed true. Please, do not attempt this with a modern pick up!!!!
Independent testing in the 90's: Quote: In the interest of science I have towed Airstreams with cars (performance tires installed) at 100MPH Quote:
Note that no one would consider towing an Airstream with a car at such speeds but it does illustrate the capabilities in a "testing format".
65 Dodge towing tests
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Road Ruler
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11/09/08 04:52am |
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RE: Can a Car tow a 34'TT
Hey now Les, lets not get your underwear in a knot. It's just information. Take it or leave it, like it or lump it. It really doesn't matter.
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Road Ruler
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11/08/08 09:37am |
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RE: Better mpg at higher altitude?
In an aircraft, the lower air density reduces drag more quickly than it reduces power, but a big part of that is induced drag, i.e. that associated with lift.
With a RV, aerodynamic drag should be a smaller factor, but maybe it drops enough to improve MPG. And maybe you slow down more in the mountains.
We tow an "aircraft" but don't have the problem of induced drag related to lift.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/CF105/73Manual-1-3.jpg?t=1226071207 height=100 width=200
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Road Ruler
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11/07/08 08:21am |
Towing
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RE: How an Airstream is made
On the Airstream forum there is talk of leaks but mostly from the old caulking that used to seal roof vents, window frames etc. Ours is 35 years old and we have one minor leak that I will deal with soon. LOL, I said that 3 years ago.
No loose rivets on ours. The shells are well made. The plywood floors are a problem as they only last 25 to 50 years. Folks that replace the floors on the older units are using special treated woods that will last much longer. Most folks will lift the shell to replace the floor.
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Road Ruler
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11/04/08 11:07am |
Travel Trailers
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How an Airstream is made
For those who may be interested.....
How an Airstream is made
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Road Ruler
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11/04/08 05:36am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Airstream in winter?
Airstreams are 4 season trailers and well insulated. All the tanks in the floor are insulated too. It will have a good sized furnace with ducts to front and rear. We use our Airstream in weather below freezing and got by with a 1,500watt electric heater.
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Road Ruler
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11/02/08 10:51am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Airstream in winter?
The 34' Airstream is well known for it's towing prowess. I have seen them towed with Crown Vic's, Hemi Dodge Chargers, V6 Dodge Intrepids, 1/2 ton pickups, etc. They have big brakes and lots of them. Consider the Hensley hitch and an optimal hook up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/CF105/1987_airstream_brochure004.jpg?t=1225645986
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Road Ruler
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11/02/08 10:16am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Better mpg at higher altitude?
The largest factor is the less aerodynamic drag you get with the thinner air.
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Road Ruler
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11/01/08 08:13pm |
Towing
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RE: Pontiac G8 Ute, will it be able to tow a RV?
The Buick LaCrosse Super classified by Buick as a sports sedan has a 300 hp, 5.3 V8, even bigger brakes, HD suspension, etc....but I don't think it's rated for more than 1500-2000 lbs. either.
So, I'm afraid it looks like big current sedans, sports or otherwise, aren't rated to be much in the way of tow vehicles.:D
Les
We hear ya Les. Those infamous bogus tow ratings. Interesting though the 1.6L Mini gets a 1,500lb tow rating and appears to work great. Makes one wonder.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/CF105/travelinfun1.jpg?t=1225362632
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/CF105/mini-1.jpg?t=1225362687
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Road Ruler
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10/30/08 04:33am |
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RE: Pontiac G8 Ute, will it be able to tow a RV?
Great pics Robert, thnxs for posting.
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Road Ruler
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10/30/08 04:26am |
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RE: Pontiac G8 Ute, will it be able to tow a RV?
No, it is a Sports Sedan like the Challenger and the Australian engineered Camaro..not a Pickup you can tow with.
Sport Sedans make the best TV's!
Didn't you know that.
Just ask Les.
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Road Ruler
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10/29/08 07:43pm |
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RE: Which is the most economical vehicle to pull a 12 foot PUP ?
From our experience... 1993 to 1998 Nissan Quest Mini van. Average towing the PU was 19 to 20 MPG. and solo the van gets 26 to 28 MPG average on the highway.
Here is the story.. Nissan Mini Van as a TV
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Road Ruler
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10/28/08 07:09am |
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RE: Pontiac G8 Ute, will it be able to tow a RV?
Lots of performance here. Maybe too late for the market. In Australia it will probably be rated higher than in NA. Will see. Has the goods to be a great TV but may need professional set up to make it work.
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Road Ruler
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10/28/08 06:49am |
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RE: WHAT CAN I TOW?????
I am mostly new to rv'ng, and starting towing my 5500# Airstream with a 1500 suburban. It was dangerous on the road as it swayed at every car and truck that passed, I came to find out that the front tires were being lifted off the ground, even with the sway bars. The engine did fine, unless I hit a hill, then it was 35 mph! Gas mileage was 9-10 mpg as it was constantly turning at 3000 rpm. I then bought a Ford F-250 diesel, and the difference is beyond belief! I cannot even feel the trailer behind me-which is a little disconcerting at night as I always worry that I have dropped the trailer back a few miles! No sway, hills and mountains at 70 mph, and oh yea, 12-15 mpg! Try not to skimp on the TV.
For decades 1,000's of "properly set up" Suburbans have been towing 31' Airstreams all over the country and beyond without issues. Something, or a number of things were not right with your set up.
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Road Ruler
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10/26/08 05:44pm |
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RE: Finding Small TTs
We liked the Taylor coach tiny trailers but they are factory direct out of Canada but did hear some good things about them but then again the price was high for what we were getting. Cathy
With the Canadian dollar down to .78 against the US dollar the Canadian Taylors would be a bargin for a US buyer.
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Road Ruler
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10/26/08 04:31pm |
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